{
 "episode_id": "invest-like-the-best-2026-06-23-vlad-barbalat-investing-120-billion-in-permanent-capital",
 "title": "Vlad Barbalat - Investing $120 Billion in Permanent Capital",
 "podcast": "invest-like-the-best",
 "published_at": "2026-06-23",
 "speakers": [
  "Patrick O'Shaughnessy",
  "Vlad Barbalat"
 ],
 "summary": "Vlad Barbalat, Chief Investment Officer of Liberty Mutual Investments, explains how the roughly $120 billion permanent-capital platform sits within mutual insurer Liberty Mutual Group, drawing on insurance float to invest from a long-term perspective without the constraints of third-party or shareholder capital. He describes an exposure-first allocation approach across reserves, growth credit, and growth equity, a 'house view' built to be prepared for all eventualities rather than to predict the future, and why a fortress balance sheet and a mutual structure let Liberty take risks public insurers cannot. Vlad recounts his childhood in Soviet Moldova and his family's emigration to the US in 1990, using it to frame his belief in American agency, entrepreneurial risk-taking, and a culture of relentless improvement. The conversation turns to geopolitics and the resetting post-WWII order, AI's effect on creativity and on valuing businesses when the future is 'invisible,' and the growth and durability of private markets. He closes on the upsides and pitfalls of permanent capital, holding both long- and short-term truths, the link between transparency and autonomy, and his gratitude for legal immigration to America.",
 "topics": [
  {
   "name": "The Liberty Mutual Investments platform",
   "timestamp": "3:22",
   "summary": "Vlad describes the ~$120B permanent-capital platform within Liberty Mutual Group, fed by two insurance businesses, and why having no third-party capital lets them invest long-term and 'do the right thing, not the expedient thing.'"
  },
  {
   "name": "Insurance float and the fortress balance sheet",
   "timestamp": "5:51",
   "summary": "The Buffett-style float model and why building a high-return fortress balance sheet rather than a sleepy bond portfolio unlocks new risk-taking (e.g. data centers) and underpins underwriting strength."
  },
  {
   "name": "Breaking down the $120B and exposure-first allocation",
   "timestamp": "7:46",
   "summary": "Roughly $70-75B is tightly managed reserves; the rest is growing growth-credit and growth-equity pools. The team starts from the exposure it wants, then chooses the best access route (direct, co-invest, club, LP, or GP)."
  },
  {
   "name": "House view and liquidity management",
   "timestamp": "12:32",
   "summary": "The house view is not a forecast but a posture of being prepared for all eventualities, focused on long-term franchises, US assets, and flexibility; Liberty avoids Europe for lack of expertise and prizes liquidity management."
  },
  {
   "name": "Mutual vs public insurer structure",
   "timestamp": "22:01",
   "summary": "Why a mutual without shareholder pressure can build a world-class investment organization that public insurers' shareholders wouldn't tolerate, the underwriting-plus-investing flywheel, and Berkshire as the extreme example."
  },
  {
   "name": "Vlad's immigrant story and the American system",
   "timestamp": "27:31",
   "summary": "Born in Soviet Moldova and facing anti-Jewish persecution, Vlad's family emigrated in 1990; he uses the 'croissant' metaphor to capture American permissionless creativity and unparalleled individual agency."
  },
  {
   "name": "Culture, branded capital, and partnering with GPs",
   "timestamp": "34:01",
   "summary": "How the immigrant ethos shapes entrepreneurial risk-taking and a culture of improvement, and how Liberty positions itself as 'branded capital' that helps GPs build businesses, operating more like a GP than a traditional LP."
  },
  {
   "name": "Geopolitics and the changing global order",
   "timestamp": "43:01",
   "summary": "Vlad argues the post-WWII Pax Americana order is resetting and the economic architecture (energy, supply chains) is shifting, while maintaining that forecasting is near-impossible and American exceptionalism endures."
  },
  {
   "name": "AI, valuations, and public vs private markets",
   "timestamp": "47:36",
   "summary": "AI as a creativity superpower that demands engagement; the new debate over valuing businesses when the future is invisible, structurally higher volatility, software/credit risk, and why private markets persist."
  },
  {
   "name": "Permanent capital, careers, and pragmatic optimism",
   "timestamp": "1:02:35",
   "summary": "The upside of permanent capital (investment hygiene) and its downside (complacency and 'long-term' as an excuse), holding both long- and short-term truths, transparency as the basis for autonomy, and gratitude for legal immigration."
  }
 ],
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  {
   "name": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "central",
   "role_in_episode": "Guest; Chief Investment Officer of Liberty Mutual Investments, narrating the platform and his investing philosophy."
  },
  {
   "name": "Patrick O'Shaughnessy",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Host of Invest Like the Best conducting the interview."
  },
  {
   "name": "Liberty Mutual Investments",
   "type": "company",
   "salience": "central",
   "role_in_episode": "The ~$120B permanent-capital investment platform that Vlad runs."
  },
  {
   "name": "Liberty Mutual Group",
   "type": "company",
   "salience": "central",
   "role_in_episode": "Parent mutual insurer whose reserves and surplus float feed the investment platform."
  },
  {
   "name": "permanent capital",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "central",
   "role_in_episode": "Core theme: investing an own permanent balance sheet versus third-party fund capital."
  },
  {
   "name": "insurance float",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "The Buffett-style float that funds long-term investing."
  },
  {
   "name": "mutual insurance structure",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Why a mutual with no shareholders can build a world-class investment organization."
  },
  {
   "name": "fortress balance sheet",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Building a high-return balance sheet to take risks others cannot."
  },
  {
   "name": "private markets",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Where Liberty focuses equity exposure; why private capital has grown and will persist."
  },
  {
   "name": "public markets",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Contrasted with private markets; harder to hold, with declining prestige."
  },
  {
   "name": "branded capital",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Reputation as a referent LP that helps GPs build businesses."
  },
  {
   "name": "Warren Buffett",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Cited for the insurance-float investing model."
  },
  {
   "name": "Berkshire Hathaway",
   "type": "company",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Extreme example of float-powered insurer-of-last-resort investing."
  },
  {
   "name": "Geico",
   "type": "company",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Berkshire's most visible insurance operation."
  },
  {
   "name": "Ajit Jain",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Berkshire insurance leader; the 'wait for the phone to ring' underwriting anecdote."
  },
  {
   "name": "Progressive",
   "type": "company",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Contrast: a focused short-tail US motor insurer versus Liberty's fat-tail diversified mix."
  },
  {
   "name": "AI",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "central",
   "role_in_episode": "AI as a creativity superpower and a source of valuation and credit uncertainty."
  },
  {
   "name": "Salesforce",
   "type": "company",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Example of a cash-cow whose long-term valuation and 30-year credit are questioned under AI."
  },
  {
   "name": "Oracle",
   "type": "company",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Cited alongside Salesforce for long-duration credit risk."
  },
  {
   "name": "Home Depot",
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   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Example of a business not obviously in the AI crossfire."
  },
  {
   "name": "John Deere",
   "type": "company",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Example alongside Home Depot of a non-obvious AI-exposed business."
  },
  {
   "name": "United States",
   "type": "place",
   "salience": "central",
   "role_in_episode": "Recurring theme: American agency, exceptionalism, and the market system."
  },
  {
   "name": "Moldova",
   "type": "place",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Vlad's birthplace, a former Soviet republic."
  },
  {
   "name": "Soviet Union",
   "type": "place",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Context for Vlad's early life and experience of persecution."
  },
  {
   "name": "Pax Americana",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "The post-WWII order Vlad argues is resetting but not ending US power."
  },
  {
   "name": "Goldman Sachs",
   "type": "company",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Where Vlad and his senior team came from; cultural inheritance of a drive for excellence."
  },
  {
   "name": "Yale",
   "type": "organization",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Example of a referent endowment LP whose backing de-risks a deal for others."
  },
  {
   "name": "macro forecasting",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Vlad's view that forecasting is near-impossible because weighting variables is the failure."
  },
  {
   "name": "venture investing",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "An ecosystem Liberty chooses not to try to replicate."
  },
  {
   "name": "COVID-19 pandemic",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "2020 anecdote about living through a historic moment."
  }
 ],
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  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "Investing an own permanent balance sheet (not third-party capital) lets Liberty take a long-term view and do the right thing rather than the expedient thing.",
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   "subjects": [
    "permanent capital",
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   "timestamp": "3:22",
   "quote": "It allows us to think about investing from a long-term perspective and then it allows us to do the right thing, not the expedient thing."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "Liberty does not try to predict the future; its house view is about being prepared for all eventualities.",
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   "subjects": [
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   ],
   "timestamp": "12:32",
   "quote": "we're not in the business of predicting the future, we're in the business of being prepared for all its eventualities."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "Macro trading barely works as a game and certainly does not work for an institution like Liberty.",
   "stance": "opinion",
   "conviction": 0.7,
   "subjects": [
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   ],
   "timestamp": "12:52",
   "quote": "I've been a macro trader, that game hardly works and certainly doesn't work for an institution like ours."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "Liberty deliberately avoids the European market because it lacks the relationships and expertise there, despite the region being more interesting than before.",
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   "subjects": [
    "European market",
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   "timestamp": "12:52",
   "quote": "We have not expanded much into the European market, largely because we don't think we have the right relationships in place there, the right expertise."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "A public insurer is unlikely to be able to pursue Liberty's approach because shareholders won't welcome building a full investment firm on the asset side.",
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   "subjects": [
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   "timestamp": "22:01",
   "quote": "I think as a public insurer, you're not likely to be able to pursue what we're doing."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "Targeting a 7-10% portfolio return rather than a 4-5% investment-grade bond yield makes all the difference in building a fortress balance sheet.",
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   "conviction": 0.8,
   "subjects": [
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   ],
   "timestamp": "20:16",
   "quote": "versus trying to achieve a 7%, 8%, 9%, 10% return on the totality of your portfolio, it's all the difference in the world."
  },
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   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "Because AI makes the future so unpredictable, it may be rational to place lower multiples on businesses across the board.",
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   "timestamp": "51:10",
   "quote": "the future is so unpredictable that how could I possibly place some higher multiple on something?"
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "If future trillion-dollar companies that don't yet exist won't use Salesforce, that should be a massive headwind to its valuation even if every current Fortune 500 keeps using it.",
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   "timestamp": "51:10",
   "quote": "that should absolutely be a massive headwind to the valuation of Salesforce"
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "Holding 30-year credit on software names like Salesforce or Oracle is a much riskier proposition than their near-term paper.",
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   "timestamp": "51:10",
   "quote": "Would I be worried about holding 30-year credit on Salesforce or Oracle or any of these things? I just think that it's a much, much riskier proposition."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "Public markets are substantially more difficult to hold than private markets, largely for psychological/behavioral reasons.",
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   "timestamp": "55:44",
   "quote": "public markets are substantially more difficult to hold than private markets."
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   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "Because abundant capital is now available to private companies, the balance between public and private markets will persist.",
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    "public markets"
   ],
   "timestamp": "55:44",
   "quote": "And so this balance will persist."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "Liberty will continue to focus largely on private markets for its equity exposure.",
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   "subjects": [
    "Liberty Mutual Investments",
    "private markets"
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   "quote": "we will continue to largely focus in the private space for our equity exposure."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "The current geopolitical shift is a reset of how Pax Americana governs, not a reset away from American power; the world still needs America.",
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   "subjects": [
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   "timestamp": "43:01",
   "quote": "I don't think it's a reset away from American power in the world, at least on a relative basis. The world continues to need America."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "The breakdown of the global order doesn't much affect investing if you're focused on the US; what matters is the changing economic architecture.",
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   "subjects": [
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    "United States"
   ],
   "timestamp": "43:01",
   "quote": "That in itself, I don't think, affects investing if you're focused in the US so much. What does clearly matter is that the economic architecture is changing."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "People can identify the variables that drive economic outcomes but are terrible at weighting them, which is why forecasting is near-impossible.",
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   "timestamp": "43:01",
   "quote": "What I think we're terrible at is assigning weights to them. That's why forecasting is next to impossible."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "Taking an AI model's first output produces generic, average 'slop'; users must engage with their own knowledge to get value.",
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   "subjects": [
    "AI"
   ],
   "timestamp": "47:36",
   "quote": "if you just ask for something and you get it back, it will give you generalities and it will drive everything to kind of an average."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "Heavy daily use of AI risks isolating people from the messy human relationships that also matter.",
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   "subjects": [
    "AI"
   ],
   "timestamp": "47:36",
   "quote": "The more I spend of my day with AI, I'm actually not spending it with my colleagues. I begin to worry about that now."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "Liberty wants to be more than a name on a capital roster; it aims to be known for creative structuring and willingness to take risks brand-name LPs won't.",
   "stance": "opinion",
   "conviction": 0.8,
   "subjects": [
    "branded capital",
    "Liberty Mutual Investments"
   ],
   "timestamp": "41:24",
   "quote": "we also want to be known for our creativity to structure solutions, for our creativity and willingness to take risks that some of those institutions that halo of a brand just don't do."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "For managers of third-party fund capital, business strategy always dwarfs the investment process.",
   "stance": "opinion",
   "conviction": 0.8,
   "subjects": [
    "third-party capital",
    "permanent capital"
   ],
   "timestamp": "1:02:35",
   "quote": "your business strategy is going to always dwarf your investment process."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "The craft of investing is inherently diluted when you manage third-party capital, one way or another.",
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   "subjects": [
    "third-party capital",
    "investing craft"
   ],
   "timestamp": "1:02:35",
   "quote": "The craft of investing is inherently diluted one way or the other."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "Permanence has a downside: it can make people complacent and let 'long-term' become an excuse for poor or inconsistent results.",
   "stance": "opinion",
   "conviction": 0.65,
   "subjects": [
    "permanent capital"
   ],
   "timestamp": "1:02:35",
   "quote": "you can make the argument that it makes people a little bit more complacent about this notion of the long-term."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "The best investors are obsessed with their craft rather than financially driven.",
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   "conviction": 0.75,
   "subjects": [
    "investing"
   ],
   "timestamp": "34:01",
   "quote": "The best investors are obsessed with their craft, not because they're financially driven."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "The level of agency available to a US citizen or resident is unparalleled anywhere else in the world.",
   "stance": "opinion",
   "conviction": 0.85,
   "subjects": [
    "United States"
   ],
   "timestamp": "27:31",
   "quote": "the level of agency you have as a citizen of the US or as a resident of the US is unparalleled to anywhere else in the world."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Patrick O'Shaughnessy",
   "claim": "The people who love America most are often immigrants who weren't born there and saw another system first.",
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   "conviction": 0.7,
   "subjects": [
    "United States",
    "immigrants"
   ],
   "timestamp": "27:00",
   "quote": "the people that love America most often weren't born here. They're immigrants."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "claim": "Transparency with stakeholders is what earns an organization autonomy; without transparency there is no autonomy.",
   "stance": "assertion",
   "conviction": 0.85,
   "subjects": [
    "organizational transparency"
   ],
   "timestamp": "1:05:45",
   "quote": "transparency is what allows you to have autonomy. No transparency, no autonomy."
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   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "prediction": "Liberty Mutual Investments' capital base will be larger than $120B when they next speak in a couple of years.",
   "timeframe": "a couple of years",
   "subjects": [
    "Liberty Mutual Investments"
   ],
   "timestamp": "7:46",
   "quote": "I think that number will be bigger next time we talk a couple of years from now.",
   "due": "2028-06-23"
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "prediction": "By 2030 there will be trillion-dollar companies that don't exist today, and some current large companies will no longer exist.",
   "timeframe": "by 2030",
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    "AI",
    "equity valuations"
   ],
   "timestamp": "51:10",
   "quote": "you will likely have trillion dollar companies in 2030 that currently don't exist.",
   "due": "2030-12-31"
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  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "prediction": "Market volatility will be structurally higher going forward.",
   "timeframe": "going forward / unspecified",
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   "timestamp": "51:10",
   "quote": "you can make an argument that volatility is just going to be structurally higher going forward."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "prediction": "The balance between public and private markets will persist because abundant private-company capital availability is durable.",
   "timeframe": "unspecified",
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    "public markets"
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   "timestamp": "55:44",
   "quote": "the main reason of capital being available to you as a private company, I think that stays. And so this balance will persist."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "prediction": "Driven by AI and tech progress, society 10 to 15 years from now will look nothing like it does today.",
   "timeframe": "10-15 years",
   "subjects": [
    "AI",
    "technology"
   ],
   "timestamp": "43:01",
   "quote": "you can imagine society 10, 15 years from now that will look nothing like what it looks like today."
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   "statement": "Liberty Mutual Investments manages about $120 billion in capital.",
   "subjects": [
    "Liberty Mutual Investments"
   ],
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   "timestamp": "3:22",
   "quote": "We are about $120 billion in capital.",
   "source": "Vlad Barbalat"
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   "statement": "Roughly $70-75 billion of the $120B is tightly managed reserves.",
   "subjects": [
    "Liberty Mutual Investments"
   ],
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   "timestamp": "7:51",
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   "source": "Vlad Barbalat"
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   "statement": "Liberty Mutual Group has two primary insurance businesses that feed the investment platform.",
   "subjects": [
    "Liberty Mutual Group"
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   "timestamp": "3:22",
   "quote": "which has two primary insurance businesses that ultimately feed the investment platform.",
   "source": "Vlad Barbalat"
  },
  {
   "statement": "Liberty's growth equity portfolio houses four businesses: private equity, real estate, energy and infrastructure, and alternative credit.",
   "subjects": [
    "Liberty Mutual Investments"
   ],
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   "timestamp": "9:43",
   "quote": "One is private equity, second is real estate, third is energy and infrastructure, and fourth, what we describe as alternative credit.",
   "source": "Vlad Barbalat"
  },
  {
   "statement": "Vlad was born in Moldova, a former republic of the Soviet Union.",
   "subjects": [
    "Vlad Barbalat",
    "Moldova"
   ],
   "timestamp": "27:31",
   "quote": "I was born in Moldova, a former republic of the Soviet Union, currently an independent country right outside of Ukraine.",
   "source": "Vlad Barbalat"
  },
  {
   "statement": "Vlad's parents emigrated with him to the United States in 1990.",
   "subjects": [
    "Vlad Barbalat"
   ],
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   "timestamp": "27:31",
   "quote": "my parents decided to uproot their life in 1990 and make the journey to the United States.",
   "source": "Vlad Barbalat"
  },
  {
   "statement": "Vlad and his senior team came from Goldman Sachs.",
   "subjects": [
    "Vlad Barbalat",
    "Goldman Sachs"
   ],
   "timestamp": "58:25",
   "quote": "You and your senior team came from Goldman.",
   "source": "Patrick O'Shaughnessy"
  },
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   "quote": "If you want to reinvent the croissant, which exists in thousand different ways right around Union Square, you can do that.",
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   "quote": "What I think we're terrible at is assigning weights to them. That's why forecasting is next to impossible.",
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   "speaker": "Vlad Barbalat",
   "timestamp": "1:08:29",
   "quote": "It is still the shining city on a hill, and I want to do whatever I can to remind people of that",
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