{
 "episode_id": "huberman-lab-2026-06-29-movement-practice-to-strengthen-your-mind-body-connection-id",
 "title": "Movement Practice to Strengthen Your Mind-Body Connection | Ido Portal",
 "podcast": "huberman-lab",
 "published_at": "2026-06-29",
 "speakers": [
  "Ido Portal",
  "Andrew Huberman"
 ],
 "summary": "Movement teacher Ido Portal, founder of Movement Culture, joins Andrew Huberman for a wide-ranging, practical conversation about using awareness, play, and movement to transform the self. Ido's central reframing is that we conflate discipline (which is developed) with the will (which is never developed, only exposed): the way to expose will is to relax at the edge of a task you only sometimes don't want to do, rather than forcing or motivating yourself through it. He argues our internal models/schemas (bodily, emotional, conceptual) rigidify and deteriorate long before structural problems appear, and that granularity, moments of freshness, and attention transform the body far faster than high-volume, high-intensity training. Huberman connects these ideas to neuroscience, the anterior mid-cingulate cortex and tenacity, antagonistic push-pull circuits, sensory deprivation and Alzheimer's, and the neurochemistry of play, while both critique low-resolution media, discuss meditation, psychedelics, relationships as shared practice, and analyze what makes elite skateboarders, fighters, and athletes move with adaptable 'meta-movement' rather than brittle perfection.",
 "topics": [
  {
   "name": "Liminal states and using the sleep-wake transition",
   "timestamp": "4:09",
   "summary": "Ido and Huberman discuss pausing in the transition between sleep and waking to loosen rigid mental models, and how intentionally disrupting sleep (e.g., waking at 3-4am to grieve) can open the system to recalibration."
  },
  {
   "name": "Meditation: micro-practices versus long sits",
   "timestamp": "11:43",
   "summary": "Ido favors applying short 'micro-dosage' practices throughout the day over dependence on long retreats, and describes how starting a practice provokes anxiety (an under-reduced, resource-bleeding state) before it gives way to a usable channel of consciousness."
  },
  {
   "name": "Waking states, corrupted senses, and rejecting 'listen to your body'",
   "timestamp": "18:36",
   "summary": "Huberman notes science lacks a descriptive map of waking states; Ido argues people are too corrupted to 'listen to their body' and that we must draw internal boundaries and definitions rather than trust raw sensation."
  },
  {
   "name": "Play versus discipline, and exposing the will",
   "timestamp": "24:41",
   "summary": "The core segment: discipline is a scaffolding that gets developed, but the will is only exposed by relaxing into a task you don't want to do without forcing or motivating yourself. Huberman ties this to the anterior mid-cingulate cortex (tenacity) and the missing neural correlate for play."
  },
  {
   "name": "Resisting stimuli: pulling back from apps by softening, not forcing",
   "timestamp": "56:43",
   "summary": "How to disengage from the 'wheel of infinite stimuli' of social media by noting the pull, softening, and then returning to the task, rather than white-knuckling or deleting apps as a form of jailbreaking."
  },
  {
   "name": "Granularity and bodily resolution; high vs low resolution across language, movement, awareness",
   "timestamp": "1:01:33",
   "summary": "Ido introduces 'bodily resolution' and argues emotional, conceptual, and body schemas deteriorate through simplification. He and Huberman discuss emotional granularity, language nuance, and moving between fine and coarse scales in space and time."
  },
  {
   "name": "Emotional nutriments, the stomach metaphor, remorse and grief",
   "timestamp": "1:32:04",
   "summary": "Ido frames the emotional, intellectual, and physical faculties as digestive systems needing nutriments (discomfort, contradiction, awe, restraint), and both discuss cultivating real remorse and grief as practices."
  },
  {
   "name": "Relationships as shared practice",
   "timestamp": "2:03:18",
   "summary": "Ido argues relationships are a form of shared practice and that the make-or-break element is being in the game together (loving the one who loves to practice), not sexual attraction or romantic love; Huberman offers the Grateful Dead and allostatic body-budget-sharing framings."
  },
  {
   "name": "Music, art, and models: pre-language truth, 'all models are wrong but useful', Feldenkrais and the Pinocchio illusion",
   "timestamp": "2:10:59",
   "summary": "Discussion of art and music tapping into truths language can't reach, why great artists 'distort' to respect perception, and Ido's view that switching your internal model (not fixing structures) is the most powerful lever, illustrated with Feldenkrais and the Pinocchio illusion."
  },
  {
   "name": "Moments of freshness and how attention transforms",
   "timestamp": "2:27:00",
   "summary": "Ido explains that a single moment of freshness, if noticed, can transform you irrevocably, and that what we pay attention to grows, so high reps and intensity are not required for change."
  },
  {
   "name": "Athletes, skateboarding, air sense, and meta-movement",
   "timestamp": "2:35:03",
   "summary": "Analysis of what makes elite skateboarders, gymnasts, and fighters move well: air sense (vestibular orientation), rebounding rather than raw power, and adaptable 'meta-movement' developed under chaotic conditions versus brittle, robotic perfection."
  }
 ],
 "entities": [
  {
   "name": "Ido Portal",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "central",
   "role_in_episode": "Guest; world-renowned movement teacher and founder of Movement Culture whose philosophy of play, will, and models drives the conversation."
  },
  {
   "name": "Andrew Huberman",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "central",
   "role_in_episode": "Host and neuroscientist who frames the discussion and connects Ido's ideas to neuroscience."
  },
  {
   "name": "Movement Culture",
   "type": "organization",
   "salience": "central",
   "role_in_episode": "Ido's integrative physical-and-mental practice for developing the self."
  },
  {
   "name": "will",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "central",
   "role_in_episode": "Ido's central concept: a fixed, elusive quality that is exposed rather than developed."
  },
  {
   "name": "discipline",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "central",
   "role_in_episode": "The developable scaffolding that Ido says we mistake for will."
  },
  {
   "name": "play",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "central",
   "role_in_episode": "The gentler, energy-conserving mode of rewiring that both contrast with discipline."
  },
  {
   "name": "movement",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "central",
   "role_in_episode": "The domain of Ido's practice and a recurring model for awareness and transformation."
  },
  {
   "name": "bodily resolution",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Ido's term for granularity in the body schema whose loss he equates with deterioration."
  },
  {
   "name": "internal models",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "central",
   "role_in_episode": "The bodily/emotional/conceptual schemas (Markov blankets) that rigidify and can be changed."
  },
  {
   "name": "meditation",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Discussed as micro-practices vs long sits and its early anxiety phase."
  },
  {
   "name": "neuroplasticity",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "The mechanism (friction points, unmasking of connections) both invoke for change."
  },
  {
   "name": "anterior mid-cingulate cortex",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Brain structure Huberman cites as the neural basis of tenacity/willpower."
  },
  {
   "name": "multistability",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Ido's recurring idea of holding two opposing experiences at once (e.g., cold/heat, love/hate)."
  },
  {
   "name": "awe",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "An emotional 'nutriment' and directed practice for transforming the emotional schema."
  },
  {
   "name": "psilocybin",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Discussed for bandwidth expansion and its therapy-assisted use in major depression."
  },
  {
   "name": "Alzheimer's disease",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Used to argue for continuing to challenge (not cast) a deprived system."
  },
  {
   "name": "air sense",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Ido's term for athletes' vestibular ability to orient and move in the air."
  },
  {
   "name": "meta-movement",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "A movement developed under chaos that achieves the task adaptably in any condition."
  },
  {
   "name": "skateboarding",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "The main case study for adaptable movement versus robotic perfection."
  },
  {
   "name": "Feldenkrais Method",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Moshe Feldenkrais's 'awareness through movement' work Ido draws on."
  },
  {
   "name": "Pinocchio illusion",
   "type": "concept",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Demonstration that the body's self-model is immediately malleable."
  },
  {
   "name": "TikTok",
   "type": "product",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Huberman's example of low-resolution media that dulls the senses."
  },
  {
   "name": "The Grateful Dead",
   "type": "organization",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Huberman's example of band chemistry dissolving when members turned goal-directed (cocaine)."
  },
  {
   "name": "Joe Parvizi",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Stanford colleague whose work Huberman cites for the anterior mid-cingulate cortex and tenacity."
  },
  {
   "name": "Dayu Lin",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Neuroscientist whose ventromedial hypothalamus work Huberman cites for antagonistic mating/aggression circuits."
  },
  {
   "name": "Bevil Conway",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "NIH vision scientist Huberman credits for explaining Rothko's use of color."
  },
  {
   "name": "Mark Rothko",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Painter used as an example of an artist reaching a fundamental truth without fully understanding it."
  },
  {
   "name": "Moshe Feldenkrais",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Originator of awareness-through-movement work Ido admires."
  },
  {
   "name": "Lisa Feldman Barrett",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Psychologist Huberman cites on emotional granularity and language."
  },
  {
   "name": "Richie Davidson",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Meditation neuroscientist Huberman cites on early-practice anxiety."
  },
  {
   "name": "Dacher Keltner",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Awe researcher at UC Berkeley Huberman cites on accessible everyday awe."
  },
  {
   "name": "Eric Jarvis",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Neuroscientist Huberman cites for the link between vocal-learning birds and dance."
  },
  {
   "name": "Karl Deisseroth",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Neuroscientist Huberman cites for practicing thinking in complete sentences."
  },
  {
   "name": "Jorge Luis Borges",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Ido's favorite author whose multistable short stories he uses as transformative practice."
  },
  {
   "name": "Nikolai Bernstein",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Father of biomechanics whose motor-variability finding Ido cites for meta-movement."
  },
  {
   "name": "Charlie Gilbert",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Rockefeller neuroscientist in Huberman's story about staying hungry to keep the senses tuned."
  },
  {
   "name": "Tom Schar",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Skateboarder cited as an exemplar of graceful, fast, high air time."
  },
  {
   "name": "Jimmy Wilkins",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "discussed",
   "role_in_episode": "Vert skateboarder cited for hip mobility and effortless style."
  },
  {
   "name": "Danny Way",
   "type": "person",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Legendary vertical skateboarder cited for spending more time in the air and resilience."
  },
  {
   "name": "Protocols: An Operating Manual for the Human Body",
   "type": "product",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Huberman's first book, previewed in the outro."
  },
  {
   "name": "The Body Keeps the Score",
   "type": "product",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Book Huberman credits and critiques for the 'body holds trauma' premise behind 'listen to your body.'"
  },
  {
   "name": "Stanford",
   "type": "organization",
   "salience": "mentioned",
   "role_in_episode": "Huberman's institution and site of Parvizi's work."
  }
 ],
 "claims": [
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "Discipline should be used only as a scaffolding to get things going, not leaned on hard; you must keep playfulness and choice inside the process.",
   "stance": "opinion",
   "conviction": 0.8,
   "subjects": [
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   ],
   "timestamp": "34:45",
   "quote": "You should use it as a scaffolding, as a way to get things going, like write that book. But inside the process, you must make sure you don't lean hard into it."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "The will is never developed, only exposed; what we develop and mistake for will is discipline.",
   "stance": "assertion",
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   "subjects": [
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   ],
   "timestamp": "34:45",
   "quote": "The will never gets developed.\nIt's only get exposed.\nDiscipline gets developed. That's what we mistaken will for."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "The first requirement for researching the will is to build a task you only sometimes don't want to do, then relax into it without forcing or motivating yourself.",
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   "conviction": 0.75,
   "subjects": [
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   "timestamp": "39:26",
   "quote": "Come up with a task that only sometimes you don't want to do."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "Motivating yourself into a task hijacks the opportunity to expose will, just as disciplining yourself does.",
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   "timestamp": "39:26",
   "quote": "Do not motivate yourself to do it. Don't put any YouTube clips. Don't mention slogans."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "Will is only present and only necessary when there is resistance; without resistance there is no will.",
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   "subjects": [
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   "timestamp": "44:22",
   "quote": "The whole point of will is that it only comes to visit and it's only necessary when there is a resistance."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "Sustained anxiety bleeds metabolic resources, which is why long-duration anxiety almost always turns into depression.",
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   "subjects": [
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   "timestamp": "17:09",
   "quote": "that's why almost always anxiety over a long duration will turn into depression. You're bleeding resources."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "People who say 'listen to your body' are usually too corrupted to actually do so.",
   "stance": "opinion",
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   "subjects": [
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    "bodily resolution"
   ],
   "timestamp": "21:33",
   "quote": "It's corrupted. You're too corrupted to listen to your body."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "Sometimes there is more to be gained from a bad night's sleep than a good one, because the altered state can reset rigid schemas.",
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   "conviction": 0.6,
   "subjects": [
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   ],
   "timestamp": "7:42",
   "quote": "sometimes there is more to be gained with a bad night's sleep than with a good night's sleep."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Andrew Huberman",
   "claim": "The anterior mid-cingulate cortex activates when we force ourselves to do things we don't want to, and it enlarges and becomes easier to access, giving discipline a real neural basis.",
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   "subjects": [
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   "timestamp": "51:25",
   "quote": "It's this anterior mid-singulate cortex that gets activated when we don't want to do something and we force ourselves to do it and that structure enlarges and it becomes easier to access."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Andrew Huberman",
   "claim": "There is no known neural correlate structure for the play piece yet, and it may be distributed rather than localized.",
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   "subjects": [
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   "timestamp": "51:54",
   "quote": "We don't yet have the correlate structure for the play piece."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Andrew Huberman",
   "claim": "Play is energy-conserving if not energy-building, unlike the costly adrenaline/catecholamine state usually needed to trigger plasticity.",
   "stance": "assertion",
   "conviction": 0.65,
   "subjects": [
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   "timestamp": "47:20",
   "quote": "I do think that it's energy conserving, if not energy building."
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  {
   "holder": "Andrew Huberman",
   "claim": "Play uses a different neurochemical cocktail than the pure adrenaline route to plasticity, one that includes some other components.",
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   "conviction": 0.6,
   "subjects": [
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   "timestamp": "47:20",
   "quote": "Play is a different cocktail. It includes some of those, but it includes some other stuff too."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "Choosing to do something deeply in the moment you don't want to is how we transform ourselves.",
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   "subjects": [
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   ],
   "timestamp": "49:49",
   "quote": "We get to transform ourselves by choosing to do something deeply, saying, I want to do this in the moment that you don't want to do this."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "The internal model deteriorates first and the structural consequences (muscle, joints, connective tissue) follow only years or decades later.",
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   "subjects": [
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   ],
   "timestamp": "1:01:33",
   "quote": "I believe the model deteriorates way before and the consequences come after."
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  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "With the body's model there is no status quo; you are always moving up or down, so it must be continually detailed and challenged.",
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   "subjects": [
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   ],
   "timestamp": "1:01:33",
   "quote": "You're moving up or down, there is no status quo. It's never stable."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "Gym and weightlifting practices are of very low quality in terms of movement.",
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   "subjects": [
    "movement",
    "fitness"
   ],
   "timestamp": "1:36:18",
   "quote": "If you look at those gym practices, those weightlifting, they're of very, very low quality in terms of movement."
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  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "It is backwards that athletes now learn from and are inspired by fitness people rather than the reverse.",
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   "timestamp": "1:36:18",
   "quote": "Where did we move? To a ridiculous situation where our athletes are learning and are inspired by the fitness people."
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  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "All models are wrong but some are useful, so the task is to switch to the useful model for the moment while accepting it too is wrong.",
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   "subjects": [
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   "timestamp": "2:17:51",
   "quote": "The realization that all models are wrong, but some are useful."
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  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "Back pain can disappear from a change in the body's model, and that is the most powerful thing he can give someone physically.",
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   "timestamp": "2:20:38",
   "quote": "your back pain can go away from a change of the model. It's the most powerful thing that I can give physically to someone."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "The change you are after (e.g., out of depression or pain) is immediately available and can be produced non-chemically and lastingly by working with the models.",
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   "timestamp": "2:24:38",
   "quote": "The change that you're after is immediately available."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "You do not need high volume or high intensity to transform; a single moment of freshness can transform you irrevocably.",
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   "subjects": [
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   ],
   "timestamp": "2:27:00",
   "quote": "There is another important, more important maybe, freshness, a moment of freshness. It can transform you irrevocably."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "What we pay attention to grows, so we do not necessarily need a thousand reps for a change to take hold.",
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   "subjects": [
    "attention",
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   ],
   "timestamp": "2:27:00",
   "quote": "What we pay attention to grows."
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  {
   "holder": "Andrew Huberman",
   "claim": "Everything in the circuitry of the brain, even cognition, is push-pull between antagonistic systems.",
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   "conviction": 0.8,
   "subjects": [
    "neural circuits",
    "multistability"
   ],
   "timestamp": "1:48:02",
   "quote": "Everything's a push pull in the circuitry of the brain, even in cognition."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "Trying to beautify your movements destroys them; beauty should be a side effect of function, not a cause.",
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   "conviction": 0.8,
   "subjects": [
    "movement",
    "aesthetics"
   ],
   "timestamp": "2:50:06",
   "quote": "don't try to beautify your movements. You will destroy them. The beauty is a side effect. It's an effect. It shouldn't be a cause."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "MMA fighters have low movement quality yet win because they solve the problem; they are drivers, not car mechanics.",
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   "subjects": [
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    "skateboarding"
   ],
   "timestamp": "2:50:54",
   "quote": "These real fighters, MMA fighters, they don't punch well, they don't kick well. Nothing that they do is of high movement quality, and yet, they'll kill you."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "A boxer's jab is alive and adaptable because it is developed under chaotic interruption from day one, unlike a kung fu punch practiced in the air that looks crisper but is not adaptable.",
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   ],
   "timestamp": "2:45:12",
   "quote": "This is the difference between a boxer's jab and a kung fu punch."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "The more skilled performer shows more variety in joint trajectories while producing a more consistent end result, evidence of an adaptable meta-movement (citing Bernstein's factory study).",
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   "subjects": [
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   ],
   "timestamp": "2:43:55",
   "quote": "There is more variety in the trajectories for the worker that gets more pieces perfectly done."
  },
  {
   "holder": "Andrew Huberman",
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   "quote": "loss of vision, subtle or severe, loss of hearing, subtle or severe, can either accelerate or maybe even cause some of the deprivation symptoms of Alzheimer's"
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   "claim": "Alzheimer's should be treated like a torn muscle, by continuing to challenge and practice with the system rather than casting it off.",
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   "quote": "I treat Alzheimer's in the same way. I practice."
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   "quote": "Life is not for living. Life is for practicing. It is a place, it is a school we came to."
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   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "You do not need more than 30 minutes a day of exercise; the paradigm shift of turning daily life into practice enriches the life you already have.",
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   "quote": "You don't need more than 30 minutes a day. It will enrich the current life that you have."
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   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "Words are corrupted and corrupting; the sensory-motor domain is far less corrupted than the conceptual schema, so it is a better place to work from.",
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   "quote": "Words are corrupted, and they're corrupting us."
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   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "The emotional faculty is a stomach that needs specific nutriments (discomfort, emotional contradiction, awe, restraint) that we have removed from modern life.",
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   "timestamp": "1:32:04",
   "quote": "What is your emotional food?"
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  {
   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "claim": "The make-or-break of a long-term relationship is being in the game of practice together, not sexual attraction or romantic love; hence 'I love the one who loves to practice.'",
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   "quote": "I love the one who loves to practice."
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  {
   "holder": "Lisa Feldman Barrett",
   "reported_by": "Andrew Huberman",
   "claim": "In cultures with more words for specific aspects of sadness and happiness, people are less likely to default to broad labels like 'I'm sad' or 'I'm depressed.'",
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   "holder": "Richie Davidson",
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   "claim": "People who start a traditional meditation practice show a statistically significant increase in anxiety in the early phase, which functions as stress inoculation.",
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   "timestamp": "13:55",
   "quote": "they see a statistically significant increase in anxiety across that early phase."
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  {
   "holder": "Andrew Huberman",
   "claim": "All information on TikTok is low resolution and consuming only it will make you an idiot.",
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   "holder": "Ido Portal",
   "prediction": "The body will become the crucial component and the new limiting factor for human development, something even AI increasingly recognizes.",
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   "quote": "And it will, I predict, become the crucial component, the body."
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   "holder": "Andrew Huberman",
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   "timestamp": "1:41:38",
   "quote": "But I trust that there's the hungers there and they'll rescue themselves. They're going to realize it. They're starting to realize it."
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   "holder": "Ido Portal",
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  {
   "statement": "The Body Keeps the Score is a pioneering book (which Huberman calls somewhat out of date) that embedded the idea that experiences live in the body as pain to be released.",
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   "quote": "the quite pioneering, although I would say somewhat out of date book, The Body Keeps the Score",
   "source": "Andrew Huberman"
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   "statement": "Vision scientist Bevil Conway of NIH explains that Rothko produced colors viewers had never seen by eliminating the frame and any white.",
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